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Do you think the proposed system is better for scoring?

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:39 pm

No problem...I'm surrounded by people at work who can do this formula in their sleep.
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Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:40 pm

i can do it... and i am working it out at the moment

but we need a simple system, i dont wanna spend ages explaining to people why they finished where they did

a SIMPLE time system, seems appropriate

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:49 pm

Really not much to explain. Its based on overall race time per person with a set lobby to lobby time penalty. A driver can only move up one lobby no higher than 4th. That's it. Pretty simple.
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:51 pm

XPR ChicaiN wrote:Really not much to explain. Its based on overall race time per person with a set lobby to lobby time penalty. A driver can only move up one lobby no higher than 4th. That's it. Pretty simple.

which isn't the only thing being suggested in this forum... i have demoed what you are thinking of... it's in the CO section

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by JVanEssen on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:09 pm

I think the time delay for b and c makes sense as it would be replicating the extra time it takes for a back of the packer to get to the start finish line. 5 and 10 might be a bit long but that can be sorted. Bonuses for qualifiers would defeat the purpose. Chad thanks for doing all that work. You must of spent a fair amount of time on it.

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:12 pm

I also think 5 seconds is too much and you can only use one or the other. time handicap or bonus points. Not both.
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:19 pm

my logic behind the 5/10 second handicap is that for the person on pole in B lobby (potentially 14-16 on the grid) it would take them 5 seconds to cross the start finish line, whereas on split lobbies, they cross it immediately

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Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:21 pm

good point
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:30 pm

perhaps then with no handicap in race 2 to simulate partial reversed grid

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Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:03 pm

Makes sense Andy
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by JVanEssen on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:25 pm

Guys I just went through the races and did a bunch of pausing as cars were crossing the start finish for the first time. ST cars are right around 2 seconds from 1st to 7th and b spec is just under 3 seconds. 5 and 10 might still be excessive.

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:27 pm

yes this can be judged per competition

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Post by HaydieT on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:27 pm

Just keep what we have & it'll be simple as anyway xD

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:29 pm

HCR Mad Dog wrote:Just keep what we have & it'll be simple as anyway xD

very funny lol

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:30 pm

JVanEssen wrote:Guys I just went through the races and did a bunch of pausing as cars were crossing the start finish for the first time.  ST cars are right around 2 seconds from 1st to 7th and b spec is just under 3 seconds.  5 and 10 might still be excessive.

I think that number will be based on individual series and the number of people in the rooms. Easily determinable though.
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by HaydieT on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:31 pm

If it ain't broke don't fix it

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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:31 pm

It is broken. That's why we're fixing it.
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Re: Future Changes for XPLR - All Please Read

Post by HaydieT on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:32 pm

Most the people on this site don't think it's broken, hense the 9 no's Smile

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Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:33 pm

The 9 no's are against the proposed system of swapping positions in lobbies.
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Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:33 pm

This is totally different from the poll.
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Post by rougewilson78 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:34 pm

I think the 5 and 10 seconds seem appropriate, not only should we take into account the distance they would normally be from the start line but also the fact that it takes a second or 2 to overtake

I would also have the 5/10 second delay in the second race to also take into account having to work through the field. I know its a reverse grid so some sort penalty already but think the time delays would also make it very close come the end of that race

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Post by AndyT306 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:36 pm

the current system is broke mad dog... may as well do a qually session and the top 14 do the comp

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Post by HaydieT on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:38 pm

As soon as you guys implement this, I'm out of here. You way aswell just have randomly assigned grid slots for qualifying as it means absolutely nothing now. People could say that they can't make qualifying and just show up for the race in C lobby, hot lap for the race & get a better position then they deserve. They're not sandbagging because they didn't qualify at all.

May aswell give al the people that have spent ages getting good at this game a power handicap aswell.

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Post by XPR ChicaiN on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:39 pm

Too much is emphasized on qualifying and not the race. We are devising a points system that rewards drivers race performance and not what lobby they qualify in as that is unfair due to the lobby limitations. The current system we are talking about is easily far better than any other scoring system currently being utilized. We just have to iron out the wrinkles which I believe we are very close.

Like I said before...this will be the baseline for future series pionts structure and all drivers will benefit from it.
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Post by HaydieT on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:40 pm

XPR ChicaiN wrote:Too much is emphasized on qualifying and not the race. We are devising a points system that rewards drivers race performance and not what lobby they qualify in as that is unfair due to the lobby limitations. The current system we are talking about is easily far better than any other scoring system currently being utilized. We just have to iron out the wrinkles which I believe we are very close.

Like I said before...this will be the baseline for future series pionts structure and all drivers will benefit from it.

Apart from the drivers that are good at qualifying. They get nothing from this?

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